really?
yeh it was boring
I always used to dread having to get dipped into that pool
.... so glad it never happened !
anybody go to the assemblies in dudley ?!?!.
its just around the corner but its the first time i won't be going and i dont feel any guilt about it !!!.
hahahaha!!.
really?
yeh it was boring
I always used to dread having to get dipped into that pool
.... so glad it never happened !
anybody go to the assemblies in dudley ?!?!.
its just around the corner but its the first time i won't be going and i dont feel any guilt about it !!!.
hahahaha!!.
Hi
Anybody go to the assemblies in Dudley ?!?!
Its just around the corner but its the first time I won't be going and I dont feel any guilt about it !!!
hahahaha!!
Something inside me still makes me WANT to go though...oh well !!!
hey folks .
over the past couple of years , ive been viewing so called 'apostate' material from one source or another over the internet.
i guess i have been leading a 'double life' as the jw's love to put it ; whilst still going to the meetings i was still reading things about the history of the borganization .
ha !
Probably not no.
I obviously got mixed up sometime there but thats the basic jist of it
Thanks for all your replies folks , u have been great I love you all man
hey folks .
over the past couple of years , ive been viewing so called 'apostate' material from one source or another over the internet.
i guess i have been leading a 'double life' as the jw's love to put it ; whilst still going to the meetings i was still reading things about the history of the borganization .
Hi Tish
Good 2 c somebody else went to Nottingham !!!
Do u ever remember sitting at the top of the south stand and imagining swinging out onto the pitch ?
Or do you remember that guy that ran onto the pitch screaming abuse?!
hahaha! probably not !
was having a wee think to myself: this year is the first year in over a decade i won't be attending the jw memorial.
not that i'm too bothered, i remembered how much i hated it, how pointless, dull, & stupid i found it!!.
i could never understand the need for the great crowd to attend the annual meeting, it wasn't for us - & it certainly wasn't for our poor bible studies!
No you weren't alone
I was its biggest fan ; It always used to touch me thinking about Christ dying for us all and the agony he must have gone through moments before his death . It was always a moody occasion as well.
I didnt look forward to it because it always made me feel nervous. Everyone was always on there best behaviour. Im 20 now and have never missed a memorial in my life but I guess thats going to change come April !!!!!!
hey folks .
over the past couple of years , ive been viewing so called 'apostate' material from one source or another over the internet.
i guess i have been leading a 'double life' as the jw's love to put it ; whilst still going to the meetings i was still reading things about the history of the borganization .
Hey folks
I really need your help
Over the past couple of years , Ive been viewing so called 'apostate' material from one source or another over the internet. I guess I have been leading a 'double life' as the JW's love to put it ; whilst still going to the meetings I was still reading things about the history of the borganization . It was kind of a drug to me ; once I started looking I just couldnt stop. ( hey this could turn out like a 'Watchtower saved me' stories like those in the magazines!! ... dont worry it wont )
I guess It all started for me one night a couple of years back when I got home from a meeting and I went online . I started reading about the UNITED NATIONS scandal , and whilst I was intrigued In what I was reading , I still felt a massive sense of guilt because I really felt that Satan had crept into my life ...... somehow down the phonelines !!!
After this obviously I started to view more and more material , In a way similar to that of when you first start studying with the Witnesses you just want to learn more and more about this prospect of living on earth with big furry animals and beautiful sisters surrounding you picking berrys and apples off trees.
At this point I came across the '65 questions you must ask a JW' . I printed these questions off and started to study them intently . I was out of work at the time so I had plenty of time.
However , as I started to do so , I realised that the person who contributed to these questions obviously wasn't for us , he was against us ! So I went down every avenue possible to eliminate anything this person said ! In time , I answered all 65 questions satisfactory to me , and reinforced my beliefs in the doctrinal structure of JW's.
A few months went by and I had a suden surge of Kingdom activity. I remember going to an assembly and coming back really upbeat and resolute that I would do anything for Jehovah , as 'Satan had tested me but Jehovah made me see the light'.
I became so confident that this was where I belonged , here In Jehovahs only true organization on earth. Everything seemd to fall into place , and despite a hicup at a convention in Nottingham , England ( where I met this girl but nothing developed :-( .....I was well upset ) In the summer leading up to 9/11 , everything seemed to be going well.
Do you remember when you were a JW and things were going right ? Didn't it seem to you like nothing could bring you down? It was like a coat of ammour that nobody could destroy . Well that was how It went for me for a while.
That feeling soon disapeared . I remembered the way In which I had 'examined' the scriptures so closely when I was studying the 65 questions. It was with the help of the Societys publications !!! I cant understand why It didnt come to me at the time , but thankfully It did come to me eventually. For example I studied the question of where the 'Great crowd' was situated ; In the Reverlation book it says blablabla ... yeh thats what it means !!! Or so I thought.
So then I went back to 'spiritual darkness' (lol) and became less and less spiritually active . This was when I read Ray Franz 2 books ( thankyou Ray you saved my life man ) . This was when It really did all fall into place for me. Everything I had read and heard all began to add up in my mind ; I finally began to set myself free from the mumblings of old men In Brooklyn , NY.
I am still on paper a member of the congregation here In England . A week ago an elder stopped by and more or less called me 'spiritually immature and weak' and went on to say that I was really confused etc. I spoke to him about several things , i.e. heavenly life , but when I brought up the subject Of Jesus being EVERYBODYS mediator , he answered in a way I would never have imagined . He said Jesus WAS everybodys mediator , full stop. Not that he was just mediator for the 144k.
Can anybody please help me and give me advice on what to say to him next time ... where in the JW publication does it say that , and what other points can I bring up ?
Thanks for listenening to my ultra boring story folks !!!!!!!! It sounds good to me is all !!
hey folks .
over the past couple of years , ive been viewing so called 'apostate' material from one source or another over the internet.
i guess i have been leading a 'double life' as the jw's love to put it ; whilst still going to the meetings i was still reading things about the history of the borganization .
Hey folks
I really need your help
Over the past couple of years , Ive been viewing so called 'apostate' material from one source or another over the internet. I guess I have been leading a 'double life' as the JW's love to put it ; whilst still going to the meetings I was still reading things about the history of the borganization . It was kind of a drug to me ; once I started looking I just couldnt stop. ( hey this could turn out like a 'Watchtower saved me' stories like those in the magazines!! ... dont worry it wont )
I guess It all started for me one night a couple of years back when I got home from a meeting and I went online . I started reading about the UNITED NATIONS scandal , and whilst I was intrigued In what I was reading , I still felt a massive sense of guilt because I really felt that Satan had crept into my life ...... somehow down the phonelines !!!
After this obviously I started to view more and more material , In a way similar to that of when you first start studying with the Witnesses you just want to learn more and more about this prospect of living on earth with big furry animals and beautiful sisters surrounding you picking berrys and apples off trees.
At this point I came across the '65 questions you must ask a JW' . I printed these questions off and started to study them intently . I was out of work at the time so I had plenty of time.
However , as I started to do so , I realised that the person who contributed to these questions obviously wasn't for us , he was against us ! So I went down every avenue possible to eliminate anything this person said ! In time , I answered all 65 questions satisfactory to me , and reinforced my beliefs in the doctrinal structure of JW's.
A few months went by and I had a suden surge of Kingdom activity. I remember going to an assembly and coming back really upbeat and resolute that I would do anything for Jehovah , as 'Satan had tested me but Jehovah made me see the light'.
I became so confident that this was where I belonged , here In Jehovahs only true organization on earth. Everything seemd to fall into place , and despite a hicup at a convention in Nottingham , England ( where I met this girl but nothing developed :-( .....I was well upset ) In the summer leading up to 9/11 , everything seemed to be going well.
Do you remember when you were a JW and things were going right ? Didn't it seem to you like nothing could bring you down? It was like a coat of ammour that nobody could destroy . Well that was how It went for me for a while.
That feeling soon disapeared . I remembered the way In which I had 'examined' the scriptures so closely when I was studying the 65 questions. It was with the help of the Societys publications !!! I cant understand why It didnt come to me at the time , but thankfully It did come to me eventually. For example I studied the question of where the 'Great crowd' was situated ; In the Reverlation book it says blablabla ... yeh thats what it means !!! Or so I thought.
So then I went back to 'spiritual darkness' (lol) and became less and less spiritually active . This was when I read Ray Franz 2 books ( thankyou Ray you saved my life man ) . This was when It really did all fall into place for me. Everything I had read and heard all began to add up in my mind ; I finally began to set myself free from the mumblings of old men In Brooklyn , NY.
I am still on paper a member of the congregation here In England . A week ago an elder stopped by and more or less called me 'spiritually immature and weak' and went on to say that I was really confused etc. I spoke to him about several things , i.e. heavenly life , but when I brought up the subject Of Jesus being EVERYBODYS mediator , he answered in a way I would never have imagined . He said Jesus WAS everybodys mediator , full stop. Not that he was just mediator for the 144k.
Can anybody please help me and give me advice on what to say to him next time ... where in the JW publication does it say that , and what other points can I bring up ?
Thanks for listenening to my ultra boring story folks !!!!!!!! It sounds good to me is all !!
you could be sitting in a roaster with dressing.
shoved up your ass!!!!!!.
count your blessings
Thanks for that
looks like the big threat to the world now is by muslims who maybe had read too many watchtowers in addition to the koran....... .
http://www.newsmax.com
"saudi connection to 9/11 revealed.
Yeah rite....
History has taught us that when the going gets tough , the Arabs get going. I strongly doubt that a poor little muslim riding on a camel towards his target cultivates more fear than a stealth bomber heading towards his homeland.
Islamic terrorists are just cowards and stand no chance of victory against anyone. Oh and what a strong and mighty leader they have .... who is he again ? Bin Laden ? Oh yeah what a leader he is ... so good that he has to spend half his time riding a mule through the Kurdish mountains ( if he's still alive )
Islam can bring it on .
tony blair is george bush's little poodle.
this guy is going against what every englishman really wants by standing side by side with you yanks on everything bush decideds to do .
as terrible as 9/11 really was , if it was london that dusty bin laden would have hit , there is no way that bush would be side by side with blair in a 'war on terrorism' .
Tony Blair is George Bush's little poodle.
This guy is going against what every Englishman really wants by standing side by side with you yanks on everything Bush decideds to do . As terrible as 9/11 really was , if It was London that Dusty Bin Laden would have hit , there Is no way that Bush would be side by side with Blair in a 'war on terrorism' .
The real English dont want to be drawn into whatever America is doing - they want ENGLAND to be sorted out by the man that messed it all up - Blair . Instead of chasing after Saddam or Bin Laden , he should sort out the IRA - THEY are the real terrorists. These guys have hit us hard for years , killing innocent people but what does Blair do ?!? He lets them all out of prison under the ' good friday agreement'. Then he has got the nerve to turn round and say to so called terrorists that havent even attacked US yet that he Is coming after them... the guy is an absolute fool.
He has turned our country from a proud nation into a feeble little Island that people laugh at.
Oh ................... HI FOLKS !!! ! ! ! ! !! ! ! !